What happens if hardin becomes elder

User Info: Sczoyd. It matters if you don't want to eradicate the Brotherhood later in the game I think it depends on what faction you side with. Tell Hardin to go shove it and leave Macnamara in place. Fie on thee. User Info: bagmup. Yes i believe Harkin hates the NCR so you cant recruit them for the final battle, the other guy will call a truce and join you.

User Info: Wakoeme. Hardin will give you power armor training eventually. GT: Hos del Gato. User Info: ssj5king. Keep the first one elder or you might get a glitch to where no matter how long you wait Hardin never becomes elder so you wont be able to do the next quest or "SPOILERS" if Hardin becomes elder you can't get them to side with the NCR and help with the final fight. PSN: Nnnking. User Info: suchiuomizu. So will McNamara. Power Armor isn't a factor in this choice.

Hardin won't ally with you for the final battle, forcing you to eradicate the BoS. Hardin will finish the quest chain and allow you to get power armor faster, since he just sends you to kill the Van Graffs and that's it, while McNamara sends you all over the place and then finally to Black Mountain.

Otherwise every other faction besides Yes Man will order you to wipe them out. More topics from this board Is there a developers area with all items like in fallout 3?

General 3 Answers Is there a companion for a legion player? Side Quest 5 Answers What are the benefits for siding with each faction? General 9 Answers. Ask A Question. Browse More Questions. Keep me logged in on this device. Forgot your username or password? So far has been so good, but now I've come to an impasse I could use some advice on. I want the Brotherhood of Steel to be one of my allies. If I choose Hardin, I'm unable to mend their relations to the NCR, but this isn't really a problem considering I don't want them around anyway.

However, if I do choose him, will I be able to gain their support during the final battle if I'm just Accepted and haven't actually joined them? I ask because if I do want to, my test is to kill the Van Graffs. I don't want to do this since I've already helped them and killing them would decrease my rep in Freeside, which I don't want either. User Info: Bat Bat 9 years ago 4 Actually, killing the Van Graffs does not lower your Freeside reputation or karma, neither does stealing from them.

User Info: cheeco88 cheeco88 Topic Creator 9 years ago 5 Oh fo-rizzle? User Info: jonas66 jonas66 9 years ago 7 "If Hardin was in charge, this would change and the BoS would be making themselves known and feared once again, meaning others wouldn't think twice before exterminating them. User Info: Bat Bat 9 years ago 8 A easy way to kill the Van Graffs is, if you haven't done Birds of a Feather, start it, and let the guy with the revolver in. User Info: red red 9 years ago 9 cheeco88 posted User Info: AquamanOS AquamanOS 9 years ago 10 Neither of them is really going to help the Brotherhood in the end, which would require more drastic change and oh I don't know perhaps not marking everyone with advanced tech an enemy.

Show the journal to Cachino and use it to blackmail him. There is no canon ending. Bethesda referenced New Vegas so little in Fallout 4 and none of the developers, neither from Obsidian nor from Bethesda ever said which one is canon.

It can be acquired by pickpocketing it from the head paladin in the Hidden Valley bunker, who may be either Hardin or Ramos, depending on choices made during the Still in the Dark quest. Yes Man: the Brotherhood will never support you directly. Scorpion gulch is just southeast through a broken fencing line from the bunker. After going through the gulch, the missing laser pistol will be on top of a rock, in the middle of the lowest part of the gulch.

The gulch will usually have various scorpions roaming around the area. Because its unnecessary; you could just leave him exposed to die eventually.